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Post by vincedecker on Apr 3, 2010 10:53:50 GMT -5
www.dynamic-eleiko.com/Click on Sportivny Press, featured articles. Two I found particularly interesting were #10 Essential components of weightlifting technique - part 2 and #3 Concerning the "Russian Squat Routine" The first one was interesting because it suggests that one should not intentionallly begin the first pull in the snatch and clean slower in order to build up to a more explosive second pull. The second talks about recovery in the clean, how sometimes squats numbers aren't as important as timing and technique in the clean recovery. Not that that idea is groundbreaking, but a good article nonetheless. REACT!
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Post by Jared Enderton on Apr 3, 2010 11:20:43 GMT -5
here is an excerpt:
"A lifter should not begin the lifts with a slow "first pull", then make a conscious effort to perform the so called "double knee bend", or to "brush the thighs" at a specific point of the pull, as is commonly practiced. These actions should be considered incorrect given the concrete requirements of the snatch and the clean as a whole. They are conscious efforts to execute the exercises in parts and not as a whole. These "conscious efforts" are too slow and inefficient for the weightlifting exercises where the speed of muscular contraction and speed of movement are crucial. "
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Post by Jared Enderton on Apr 3, 2010 11:33:34 GMT -5
very, very long reads but SO well worth it guys!!!
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Post by vincedecker on Apr 3, 2010 12:32:25 GMT -5
Yeah and I'm not making a judgement positively or negatively yet, but the lifters cited have a lot of credibility, so it is worth thinking about. It was late last night when I read these again, but I think he was more concerned about the speed of getting your knees under the barbell so you can exert as much force on the barbell for the "explosive pull" phase. I wonder if one could work on on a faster first pull and still brush the waist in the snatch? Maybe have the best of both worlds.
On a side note: did you catch mention of the lifter with a 455 back squat (presumably done oly-style)?!
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Post by Jared Enderton on Apr 3, 2010 17:57:57 GMT -5
maybe I Completely missed that part but I don't think he's saying DON'T brush it off your waist, right? I mean every person I have ever seen snatch brushes it of their waist I believe... Maybe I missed that?
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Post by vincedecker on Apr 3, 2010 20:43:41 GMT -5
Maybe you're right. I just know he says the lifter should not consciously brush the thighs. The author says these conscious efforts make one too slow to effectively do the lifts. Every article on that site is very interesting.
He is against pulls because they are different biomechanically from the snatch and C & J. He also talks about how the Turks and Bulgarians are more contest-ready because they practice competition snatches and C & Js in training often.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Apr 4, 2010 11:42:02 GMT -5
When I read it I know he said don't brush the things at a "particular point" or don't wait to brush it at a certain point. I thought that was interesting because yesterday when I was doing cleans that was my exact goal- wait to explode until it was much higher than normal, and, consequently it was not natural and I didn't like it very much. I dunno, I guess that's why it made sense to me, just cause I was trying to do that exact thing and it didn't work out so well for me. I thought he was moreso referring to brushing at a particular point, not brushing in general. I will have to read it again.
when you say pulls- so snatch pulls and cleans pulls, or, deadlifts? I am guessing both?
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