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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 20, 2010 21:04:58 GMT -5
1-20
645-7am 1 mile run
1130-1220pm Swimming (4 25's, 9 50's, 1 75) Hot Tub 15m (pry not the smartest b4 lifting... but it felt great!)
430-530pm DS, BBC Snatch-barxlots 40kgx2x3,50kgx2,60x2,70kgx3x2 Power Clean & Jerk- bar,60kgx2x2,80x2,90kgx1,100kgx4x1(220lbs) Front Squat- bar,60kgx3,80x3,100kgx3x3(220lbs) Snatch Pulls- 60x3,70x3,80kgx3x3(176lbs) Decline Abs- 2x25
Overall a solid day. Swimming really drained me today.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 21, 2010 22:34:01 GMT -5
1-21
730am 1 mile run
4-445pm DS, BBC Muscle Snatch- 40kgx2x3, 50x2,60x2,65kgx3x2 Power Clean & Military Press- 60kg,70kgx3x3 Jerk Dips- 60,80,105kgx3x3+3 Lying Rows- 60kg,70x5x5
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 22, 2010 22:24:35 GMT -5
1-22
1030-1115am jogging, sprints, standing broad jumps, abs, handstand walks, 15m stretching
515-630pm DS, BBC snatch- 40kgx2x3,50x2,60x1,70x1,80x1,85x1,90x1,95kgx3x1(209lbs) very easy Clean & Jerk- bar,40,60,80,100,110kgx3x1(242lbs) Snatch Pulls off Box- 60x3,80kgx3x3 Squats- 50,90,120,140kgx3x2 Dips- 50 total
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Post by caalvarez2 on Jan 23, 2010 9:18:05 GMT -5
damn man for losing all of that BW your #'s are looking pretty good.your strength on the clean and jerk is awesome bro.keep smashing.
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Post by kingklavetter on Jan 23, 2010 14:06:34 GMT -5
When we were texting I wasn't really sure how to put this so I'm just gonna put it out there. You have done an amazing job transforming your body in what a year? Less actually. And numerous times I have told you that I think you are very mature for being so young BUT... I think you are slipping up. I'm not a big fan of weight classes because of one thing and you are doing exactly that IMO. Fighters do this, wrestlers do this, some lifters even do this. You get a goal body weight in your head and you get bullheaded to make that weight. The BW becomes your first and foremost goal and you go for it at any and all sacrifice. You are at 8% BF right now, tested under the best system currently in medical science. I think if you drop 6lbs (give or take) you will be to low of bodyfat to stay productive. After you make the cut for weigh ins you will be shot. Even at best case scenario, you lose the weight, you cut the weight and you perform fine your numbers will go up at a much much slower rate than they would if you gave your body a margin to grow and that is a BEST case scenario. More likely is that you will get sick and face fatigue from overtraining time and time again. You told me that you looked the chinese and you see how shredded those guys are. Here is the thing. At the lowest those guys go to the meet at 5% BF and a ton of wonderful anabolics in their system. This is the reason they are so much more vascular and have a leaner harder look to them. Take an American counter part, i.e. Kendrick Ferris. Kendrick is very low in bodyfat but still needed to move up a weight class to be as productive as he could be. Kendrick does not look anything like the chinese but still lifts very very well and passes all tests without haste. I think if you stick to this short sighted goal of 85kg you are going to lose very valuable time. Oly lifting is by no means a young mans game. By next year you may seriously regret not letting your body get what it needs to perform at a maximal level.
Your 3rd biggest fan, Chris
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Post by caalvarez2 on Jan 23, 2010 15:20:40 GMT -5
When we were texting I wasn't really sure how to put this so I'm just gonna put it out there. You have done an amazing job transforming your body in what a year? Less actually. And numerous times I have told you that I think you are very mature for being so young BUT... I think you are slipping up. I'm not a big fan of weight classes because of one thing and you are doing exactly that IMO. Fighters do this, wrestlers do this, some lifters even do this. You get a goal body weight in your head and you get bullheaded to make that weight. The BW becomes your first and foremost goal and you go for it at any and all sacrifice. You are at 8% BF right now, tested under the best system currently in medical science. I think if you drop 6lbs (give or take) you will be to low of bodyfat to stay productive. After you make the cut for weigh ins you will be shot. Even at best case scenario, you lose the weight, you cut the weight and you perform fine your numbers will go up at a much much slower rate than they would if you gave your body a margin to grow and that is a BEST case scenario. More likely is that you will get sick and face fatigue from overtraining time and time again. You told me that you looked the chinese and you see how shredded those guys are. Here is the thing. At the lowest those guys go to the meet at 5% BF and a ton of wonderful anabolics in their system. This is the reason they are so much more vascular and have a leaner harder look to them. Take an American counter part, i.e. Kendrick Ferris. Kendrick is very low in bodyfat but still needed to move up a weight class to be as productive as he could be. Kendrick does not look anything like the chinese but still lifts very very well and passes all tests without haste. I think if you stick to this short sighted goal of 85kg you are going to lose very valuable time. Oly lifting is by no means a young mans game. By next year you may seriously regret not letting your body get what it needs to perform at a maximal level. Your 3rd biggest fan, Chris damn King that's a very informative post.i too agree,that i believe Jared should not worry about weight classes.he is not built to be under 190lbs. the dude is a monster,and just needs to eat to feed that muscular body of his.i also agree with all the weight cutting and draining of his system that he will more than likely end up getting sick/fatigued/overtrained/etc/etc/etc.that doesn't sound like Jared,that he worries about the chinese being ripped.who gives a shit what they look like?i kind of find it hard to believe that Jared is worried about looking ripped,when he was up to 290lbs doing strongman.maybe his goals have changed a bit,i don't know.i just don't understand why he is so set on being in a weight class UNDER 200lbs.the guy is more than strong enough to compete with the big boys,hell he's one of the big boys.i just wish him luck and hope that he remains healthy.i do think that his body is not meant to be under 200lbs,at least when it comes to strength athletics,and i think the weight cutting is working against his body not for it.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 24, 2010 22:11:36 GMT -5
1-23
10am warmup- j rope, ds, bbc power clean & push press- 40,50,60,70,80kgx5x2(176lbs) power hang snatch- 40,50,60,70,75kgx3x3 deadlift-100x3,120x3,140kgx3, 160kgx3x3(352lbs)
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Post by kingklavetter on Jan 24, 2010 23:57:04 GMT -5
your fans await a response...
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 25, 2010 11:10:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you're going with the "your 3rd biggest fan" or the "fans" thing, or if you're being sarcastic or how to take that, but, I had one typed up last night and my internet quit working. I do have it on my computer at home but not here at the lab. I'll post it today once I get back home. I just don't want to retype it ha.
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Post by kingklavetter on Jan 25, 2010 14:25:39 GMT -5
We're friends but I think we are fans of one in another. We route each other on and hope the best for our friends right? I don't remember why I put 3rd. It was something funny I'm sure
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 26, 2010 9:51:56 GMT -5
Very true. Except for I don't really hope the best for you. I secretly pray that you do bad everyday in training haha.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 26, 2010 9:54:11 GMT -5
1-25
11a-12p jogging, cals hurdle jumps swimming(sprints)
4-5pm DS, BBC Deadlift- 50kgx5,90x5,120x3,140x3,160x3,170kgx5x3(374lbs) Power Clean & Power Jerk- 50kg,70kgx2,90x2,100kgx5x2(220lbs) Front Squat-60x4,90kgx4,110kgx3x3(242lbs) Back Extension- 5x8 Hanging Leg Raises- 5x10 Inversion
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 26, 2010 13:54:42 GMT -5
I really do appreciate your post king. It's honest and straightforward. I am not concerned about my physique necessarily. I am concerned with being at a low bf% so I can hold onto as much muscle as possible when I step onto the platform. It is a necessity in olympic weightlifting. You simply can't compete at any lower weight with a significant amount of body fat for this reason: fat doesn't contract! So it will do me zero good to hold more fat.
I am basically at 9% BF. 8.9 at 199. You are absolutely right- they pry do step onto the platform at 5-8% and look absolutely shredded(thanks much to the help of anabolics most likely). and you also bring up a great post about kendrick. However, Kendrick does that exact thing I am wanting to do- and I actually kind of got the idea by studying what he has done. He trains at about 89kg (196lbs) and cuts the rest leading up to the competition/the night and day of. That is where I go tthe idea from- because I know I have to be able to hold a very low bf% and still be effective in my training.
You may be right- 94kg may be what I eventually go. However, I Really want to give 85kg a legitimate shot because I feel like I am capable of doing it while still being effective in my training. I will be smart about it and will know in 6-8 months whether I believe it'll work or not. If not, I will move up to 94(Which wouldnt be much time wasted because I'd still be training at about 89).
Believe me- your post has really made me think, and I Am still thinking about all the pros and cons. I just believe I am disciplined enough to do this at 85kg. I am not bullheaded about 85 looking more attractive than 94 and I dont have that thought that I am going to make 85kg at any cost and that being the only goal.
My #1 goal is and has been focusing on getting my technique down first. 1b is really working on flexiblity(they go hand in hand- hard to have good technique without great flexibility). My weight has been coming down with the training I Have been doing- I'm not training for the reason of cutting weight.
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Post by caalvarez2 on Jan 26, 2010 14:08:35 GMT -5
great post Jared.everything sounds good.you got your head in the right place.i know you'll do well.just watch out for OT.avoid failure like it is the plague.if you stay away from failure i believe you'll do just fine.going to failure while trying to cut weight will diminish the returns.and you are more than disciplined enough for what you are doing.just out of curiosity though,why not compete at a higher weight?you are more than strong enough to hang with the big boys,and don't tell me your not.once you get your technique perfected you'd probably be unfuckingstoppable man.
great workout session as well bro.your deadlifts are looking great.as is everything else.maybe one day when you are back home we can pull together.i think that would be a great time.the deadlifts these last few wks are strengthening my hands.i pull double overhand,always.my grip has improved over the last few wks.i can tell when i'm doing my pullups and my hanging leg raises.i had to give the grippers a break for awhile because my thumb tendonitis was acting up over Christmas because we were so busy in the bakery.i might give them a try this week i don't know.it seems lately that everytime i do them my tendonitis acts up.but it never bothers me when i'm training.i wish my farmers handles were done so i could give those a shot.i'm really looking forward to using those.
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Post by kingklavetter on Jan 26, 2010 15:33:58 GMT -5
I am sure Kendrick is walking around at 10-11% BF during training and 8 at the lowest when stepping up to weigh in as are most oly lifters. I see what you are saying about learning the lifts first and letting your weight do what stay where it is at. 6-8 months is A LOT when most guys retire by the time they are 25. 12lbs is a lot of weight to cut when you only get 2 hour weigh ins. You would be down to 3% BF if it was all fat. It won't be, it will be water for a large part but even if it is only 4lbs that is still putting you in the 7% range. 7 and lower has been shown to highly increase illness, fatigue, injury and brain shrinkage. Remember all your organs run off of fat and insulin.
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