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Post by cmathison on Aug 10, 2009 13:29:24 GMT -5
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Post by Jared Enderton on Aug 10, 2009 19:16:25 GMT -5
wow.. that is awesome. I thought I remembered our strength coach mentioning something about that and how it was great for recovery too..
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Post by Jared Enderton on Aug 15, 2009 12:36:42 GMT -5
C math, do you notice a difference? I know you have been going to the sauna a lot lately...
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Post by cmathison on Aug 24, 2009 20:26:57 GMT -5
not really.. I think this is one of those things that you just have to believe in or not. I dont think it will make such a difference that I would say its helping.. Way too many other variables that would be impossible to keep the same in order to prove it was the sauna that did it.
It truly is an awesome feeling to go from 10 min in the sauna and then take a dip in the pool.. feels awesome.
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Post by logantonderum on Oct 18, 2009 17:48:26 GMT -5
wow.. that is awesome. I thought I remembered our strength coach mentioning something about that and how it was great for recovery too.. I've seen that alot too. Fedor uses one every day(along with euchalyptus leaves) to get rid of lactic acid after training.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Oct 18, 2009 18:49:27 GMT -5
Those europeans do some crazy stuff for recovery. Lots of different herbs and stuff. I know a lot of people swear by the sauna. IF you can stay hydrated I think it would def. help.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Oct 18, 2009 18:49:55 GMT -5
PS- Fedor is the man
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Post by logantonderum on Oct 19, 2009 17:40:03 GMT -5
God amongst men ;D
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Post by Jared Enderton on Oct 20, 2009 8:27:43 GMT -5
will we ever see fedor in the ufc?
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Post by logantonderum on Oct 20, 2009 12:44:31 GMT -5
It'd be great. Dana would have to co-promote with M-1 before Fedor would join. People who think Fedor needs the UFC to cement his legacy are wrong. He took out former UFC champs seven times. The three fighters he'll face in Strikeforce are very tough. Obviously Brett Rogers has big power. Alistair Overeem is complete and would be a tough fight. And Bigfoot Silva as well. The man doesn't care about cementing a legacy, he fights for the love of the game and that's what makes him great. Not just a different breed of fighter, just a different breed of person all together. Had to get that off my chest.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Oct 20, 2009 18:29:33 GMT -5
You are right- he does not need the UFC to cement his legacy. A lot of fighters find it very difficult to come from pride(or other organizations) into the ufc (cro cop comes to my mind first). I think Fedor would have no problem- but I know the match up of him and Lesnar will be talked about until it happens- with most people believing Fedor would win.
I knew there has/had been a ton of talks about it- last I heard was that whoever fedor was with got greedy and basically wanted a piece of the ufc for it to happen or something similar to that. I'd just love to see the guy get the recognition some of the ufc guys get
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Post by logantonderum on Nov 3, 2009 13:58:48 GMT -5
Alot of fighters did find it difficult from Pride. I don't like accusing even though for most it was obvious and alot of fighters said it happened because they don't get tested in Japan, but steroids. Wanderlei's chin is also not where it used to be just because he was in so many wars over his run in Pride and those add up. He started bare knuckle fighting in Brazil at eighteen. That couldn't have been the best thing haha. That dude is a berserker.
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Post by Jared Enderton on Jan 22, 2010 13:24:06 GMT -5
I sat in a sauna today. I know I am going to get jacked now. haha it actually pry wasn't very smart since I have my actual lifting workout later. Whoops.
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Post by porksota on May 9, 2010 8:11:51 GMT -5
You're better off focusing on getting good sleep.
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Post by lillianreptilian on May 9, 2010 9:34:56 GMT -5
Here's an interesting study I found: www.thieme-connect.com/ejournals/abstract/sportsmed/doi/10.1055/s-2003-42017Sauna-Induced Rapid Weight Loss Decreases Explosive Power in Women but not in Men Int J Sports Med 2003; 24(7): 518-522 A. Gutiérrez, J. L. M. Mesa, J. R. Ruiz, L. J. Chirosa, M. J. Castillo This study aimed at investigating to what extent sauna-induced dehydration is effective to rapidly decrease body weight and whether this practice alters strength and/or explosive power (jump capacity) in healthy athletes. We also investigated whether the observed changes could be rapidly reversed through rehydration. Six male (aged 21.6 ± 1.8 y) and six female (aged 24.5 ± 3.7 y) athletes who were not familiar with weight cutting procedures were tested on three occasions: 1) before sauna, 2) after three consecutive sauna sessions (3 × 20 min at 70 °C, with 5 min rest interval), and 3) after one hour rehydration period (2.5 ml/kg body weight every 15 min). For rehydration, a carbohydrate beverage (6.3 % glucose, 9.5 mmol/l Na+, 10 °C) was used. Evaluation consisted of body composition, strength (row-strength, handgrip-strength) and jump capacity (squat jump, counter-movement jump and elastic capacity). Sauna-induced dehydration, significantly decreased body weight in men (- 1.8 ± 0.5 %) and women (-1.4 ± 0.6 %). This reduction could not be rapidly reversed through rehydration. This weight cutting scheme did not affect strength or jump capacity in men. In women, a statistically significant decrease in squat jump was manifested after rehydration compared to pre-sauna values 23.7 ± 2.2 vs. 25.2 ± 1.4 cm, p < 0.05). The squat jump decrease in women was linearly and directly related to the percent reduction of body weight.As a result of this study, which must have been passed around on some fitness magazines and sites, I've been told never to use sauna to cut weight, and even that in general I shouldn't use it for recovery since I'm female. (Holly especially is very superstitious about this sort of thing). The whole thing seems fishy to me--it's just one study. The weight loss of 1.4% would be equivalent of me cutting down from 76 kg to 74.9 kg, which is far more than I would try to cut using sauna alone. They didn't measure weightlifting performance, and the only difference was in 'squat jumps'. They didn't have a control group that lost the same weight through other means or who became dehydrated in some other way. I did find a number of studies which found what we already know to be true: dehydration in general is bad for performance. Also, using only 6 each of males and females just isn't enough to draw conclusions from. I do give them kudos for including both men and women, since many other studies only looked at male athletes. Anyhoo...I'm calling bullshit, and after thinking about this it makes me want to go in the sauna. I think it's a good lesson, though, in drawing too many conclusions from one study. That happens a lot in sports, fitness and nutrition (and many, many other things). As Ben Franklin said, "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see."
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